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Victualis's avatar

The general theory seems coherent, but the only reason to shoehorn Eve into it is Genesis. The Bible isn't particularly old, and Eve seems even less likely when considering Indian or Sumerian myths.

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Fascinating! If this is true, then “self” is a viral meme that emerged over 10,000 years ago as a unified scaffold for a bunch of internal phenomena. That rhymes crazily well with the Buddha’s phenomenological insight into the empty nature of self.

His psy-technique explicitly targets the dissolution of the self-illusion (i.e. dropping the first fetter), among other things. Pre-Buddha folks could see through the illusion, but not dissolve it - often mistaking it for a subtler, truer self. He aimed directly at this, which to me sounds like partially undoing the effect of the self-meme: removing the scaffold while leaving the shaped processes intact.

Reports from many who’ve done this suggest that the voices in your head remain. But the mental tension of maintaining the self-construct in running consciousness dissolves. You no longer associate the phenomena with “you.” So in a weird way, it sounds like a return to the bicameral mind - but crucially, with retained consciousness and abstract thought. Hence: self as scaffold.

It’s cool to think of selfing as a natural stage in the evolution of human consciousness, both species-wide and individual, and de-selfing as the next logical step: keeping the structured processes while stripping away the costly scaffold, which incidentally also generates suffering as a side-effect.

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